GOV/MIL - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., wants federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison (2025)

auxman

Deus vult...
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #1

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., wants federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison.

Luna, who is leading a task force on the declassification of government records, is introducing a new bill called the Stopping High-level Record Elimination and Destruction (SHRED) Act of 2025.

It would levy a mandatory sentence of 20 years to life for any government official or employee of the Department of Justice (DOJ) found to have concealed, removed, or mutilated federal records, according to bill text previewed by Fox News Digital.

Federal law currently dictates that anyone found knowingly destroying, falsifying, or obstructing government records "with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States" is eligible for a fine or up to 20 years in prison.

Any custodian of public records found to be destroying or concealing those records could be fined up to $2,000 or face up to three years in prison, or both.

GOV/MIL - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., wants federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison (2)

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View: https://twitter.com/musson_candi/status/1900861662887850442

Elza

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #2

I certainly like it. However I doubt you'll find many judges willing to impose it and even fewer appellate judges willing to accept it.

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #3

Elza said:

I certainly like it. However I doubt you'll find many judges willing to impose it and even fewer appellate judges willing to accept it.

Your comment brought up something Trump said.

He wants to distribute agencies around the country, not have them all clumped in DC.

Maybe to put them under different legal jurisdictions where criminal employees may not land in a friendly court?

wobble

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #4

auxman said:

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., wants federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison.

Luna, who is leading a task force on the declassification of government records, is introducing a new bill called the Stopping High-level Record Elimination and Destruction (SHRED) Act of 2025.

It would levy a mandatory sentence of 20 years to life for any government official or employee of the Department of Justice (DOJ) found to have concealed, removed, or mutilated federal records, according to bill text previewed by Fox News Digital.

Federal law currently dictates that anyone found knowingly destroying, falsifying, or obstructing government records "with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States" is eligible for a fine or up to 20 years in prison.

Any custodian of public records found to be destroying or concealing those records could be fined up to $2,000 or face up to three years in prison, or both.

GOV/MIL - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., wants federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison (7)

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Rep. Anna Paulina Luna wants to make federal workers found destroying or concealing documents to be eligible for life in prison.

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View: https://twitter.com/musson_candi/status/1900861662887850442

Hitlery should be attached to this as well.

Kathy in FL

Administrator

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #5

Look, just because you are PO'd doesn't mean saying this stuff is at all helpful. I mean I get it. All the reports of USAID, etc. destroying documents so DOGE, DOJ, FBI, etc can't trace the money and hold people accountable is infuriating ... but let's be real. Criminal yes. Mandatory sentencing yes. But a life sentence for putting a piece of paper in a shredder? You know it is never going to happen and the suggestion can actually hinder moving forward.

Reasonable Rascal

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #7

Millwright said:

Your comment brought up something Trump said.

He wants to distribute agencies around the country, not have them all clumped in DC.

Maybe to put them under different legal jurisdictions where criminal employees may not land in a friendly court?

Now there is a thought.

RR

llknp

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #8

Millwright said:

Your comment brought up something Trump said.

He wants to distribute agencies around the country, not have them all clumped in DC.

Maybe to put them under different legal jurisdictions where criminal employees may not land in a friendly court?

I never did understand having so many government agencies clumped together in area the size of DC. One good effective missile attack and we are in trouble as a nation.

Millwright

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #9

llknp said:

I never did understand having so many government agencies clumped together in area the size of DC. One good effective missile attack and we are in trouble as a nation.

At this stage of the game, we might be better off.

SNOWSQUAW

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #10

Kathy in FL said:

Look, just because you are PO'd doesn't mean saying this stuff is at all helpful. I mean I get it. All the reports of USAID, etc. destroying documents so DOGE, DOJ, FBI, etc can't trace the money and hold people accountable is infuriating ... but let's be real. Criminal yes. Mandatory sentencing yes. But a life sentence for putting a piece of paper in a shredder? You know it is never going to happen and the suggestion can actually hinder moving forward.

I guess we disagree. I call it TREASON and therefore should be severely punished.

Elza

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #11

llknp said:

I never did understand having so many government agencies clumped together in area the size of DC. One good effective missile attack and we are in trouble as a nation.

At least we wouldn't have some half-assed judge tell us to hire them back.

P

Publius

On TB every waking moment
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #12

llknp said:

I never did understand having so many government agencies clumped together in area the size of DC. One good effective missile attack and we are in trouble as a nation.

It go's back to our countries second constitution and having our central government in a 10 square mile area they named Washington D.C. and all the central government was to operate within that 10 square miles that was set aside just for all the operations of government.

Outlaw-16

Senior Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #13

How about adding in possession of classified documents that they are not cleared for? That would put the hildebeast on the list as she had/has documents that she was not cleared to have and had no relevant need to know, as in not read in on the operation yet somehow had the info all about it.

M

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #14

Federal agents caught destroying or concealing government documents to be eligible
for the shredder.

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #15

Kathy in FL said:

But a life sentence for putting a piece of paper in a shredder? You know it is never going to happen and the suggestion can actually hinder moving forward.

No, a life sentence for TREASON.

We hired-PAID YOU- to do a job. If you don't do it, your stealing. If you agreed to do it, you're lying. And if you were paid to do it, wilkfully didn't, and it was a matter of government importance... treason. Crime against the country & people.

Now if you're stealing company time & lying about actions, and aiding an abetting criminals and foreign / non-elected agents... what does that make you?

Any malfeasence in government Is treason. Take your job as seriously as I take my rights or we're goIng to have SERIOUS contention about what YOU DID with MY MONEY.

B

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #16

llknp said:

I never did understand having so many government agencies clumped together in area the size of DC. One good effective missile attack and we are in trouble as a nation.

Or saved.

Kathy in FL

Administrator

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #17

BadMedicine said:

No, a life sentence for TREASON.

We hired-PAID YOU- to do a job. If you don't do it, your stealing. If you agreed to do it, you're lying. And if you were paid to do it, wilkfully didn't, and it was a matter of government importance... treason. Crime against the country & people.

Now if you're stealing company time & lying about actions, and aiding an abetting criminals and foreign / non-elected agents... what does that make you?

Any malfeasence in government Is treason. Take your job as seriously as I take my rights or we're goIng to have SERIOUS contention about what YOU DID with MY MONEY.

Treason is a different charge that requires different consequences. Who is actually doing the shredding of the documents? Probably secretaries and low level clerks

You want charges to stick and result in a conviction, not have a jury or judge give them a "reasonable doubt" as an out.

J

Justin Kase

Contributing Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #18

Kathy in FL said:

.... But a life sentence for putting a piece of paper in a shredder?

Depends on whats was written on the paper .. if it was important enough to shred so as not to disclose then it was important enough to surrender as instructed by the DOJ.
I vote ... yes.

JK

Tristan

TB Fanatic
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #19

SmithJ said:

If so it will only be conservatives that are entrapped that this will apply to

That's the fly in the Ointment...

KFhunter

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #20

Millwright said:

Your comment brought up something Trump said.

He wants to distribute agencies around the country, not have them all clumped in DC.

Maybe to put them under different legal jurisdictions where criminal employees may not land in a friendly court?

Agencies headquartered in deep red states?

I like it!

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #21

Nobody who is a secretary or legal aide should be touching papers that are above their level to view. Not even for shredding ot burning. All they should ever handle, period, is a sealed burn bag. And even that should be done cautiously.

And given that these people are already losing their jobs and being sacrificed as pawns by those who were using them, why in hades would you put yourself at risk if you knew that the consequences were a treason charge?

For short term, laws can't be retroactive. So the people who've done it until now are safe, well as safe as possible under current laws. They may still face other charges. Also, this is farther reaching than any of you are seeing. Because treasonous individuals do stuff like this to cover their trail as a normal course of business.

End result, those lower down the chain will be much more careful about chain of custody on both the documents themselves and the shredder/burn bags. They will make it very clear who authorized the destruction and who was responsible every step of the way. So that they don't take the fall.

Are procedures in place for that? Likely. But also very likely that they haven't been followed, as evidenced by the rush to destroy things.

And the ability to hide things is shrinking as the hidden funding is drying up. I'm pretty sure that people will find new ways. Thieves always find a way. But it will be harder. And just maybe, hard enough and risky enough that the people to follow after will be much more cautious.

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #22

KFhunter said:

Agencies headquartered in deep red states?

I like it!

Oh, I'm me. I'd like it even better if they are in red zones, even in blue states.

His first term he wanted the employees where the people are that need their help.

It has both good and bad sides. But it would likely help decrease the levels of fraud.

KFhunter

Veteran Member
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #23

I was thinking deep red states are more likely to have constitutional judges in case those agency heads get outta line

subnet

Boot
  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #24

Kathy in FL said:

Look, just because you are PO'd doesn't mean saying this stuff is at all helpful. I mean I get it. All the reports of USAID, etc. destroying documents so DOGE, DOJ, FBI, etc can't trace the money and hold people accountable is infuriating ... but let's be real. Criminal yes. Mandatory sentencing yes. But a life sentence for putting a piece of paper in a shredder? You know it is never going to happen and the suggestion can actually hinder moving forward.

The last issue i read on this is, its not technically paper docs being shredded, its electronic docs being deleted which takes someone with a higher clearance level than low level staff and if people want this type of crime to stop, people need to be afraid of the consequences.
Imo they should hang, but that wont happen.

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